{"id":1718,"date":"2010-10-31T11:45:53","date_gmt":"2010-10-31T18:45:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=1718"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:23:56","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:23:56","slug":"view-from-nowhere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=1718","title":{"rendered":"View from Nowhere"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Reflecting on today&#8217;s call, and going in to this week&#8217;s inquiry, I&#8217;m finding myself challenged already.\u00c2\u00a0 (Not that that&#8217;s a bad thing!).\u00c2\u00a0 But in recent years, in other contexts, I&#8217;ve reflected a lot on the notion of a &#8220;view from nowhere,&#8221; and have come to believe that that is an untenable holdover from various systems of metaphysics.\u00c2\u00a0 I think we can possibly have an insight into the co-arising and co-determination of subject and object, but I am not comfortable calling that a &#8220;view from nowhere&#8221; &#8212; if by that we mean a &#8220;direct contact&#8221; with &#8220;reality itself,&#8221; a context-free apprehension of &#8220;what is.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 For instance, is this sort of insight into the co-arising and co-determination of subject and object, of the givenness of &#8220;self&#8221; or observer along with what is observed, available to a seven-year-old child?\u00c2\u00a0 If not, why not?\u00c2\u00a0 If this sort of knowing transcends all contextuality, it should be available to anyone, at any time, but I haven&#8217;t found this to be the case.\u00c2\u00a0 I have found it takes a lot of &#8220;work&#8221; to even begin to glimpse something like the co-arising of subject and object, and I read this as a developmental (not-context-free) attainment. I am open to being &#8220;wrong&#8221; about this, but at present it appears to me that the idea that we can actually assume a view from nowhere, and have immediate, context-free awareness of what is, is an out-moded metaphysical view, a myth.<\/p>\n<p>I would welcome anyone&#8217;s thoughts on this &#8212; or questions, challenges, suggested inquiries or investigations&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes,<\/p>\n<p>Bruce<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reflecting on today&#8217;s call, and going in to this week&#8217;s inquiry, I&#8217;m finding myself challenged already.\u00c2\u00a0 (Not that that&#8217;s a bad thing!).\u00c2\u00a0 But in recent years, in other contexts, I&#8217;ve reflected a lot on the notion of a &#8220;view from &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=1718\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,46,49,45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01_general","category-2010-11tskonlinecourse","category-metaphysics","category-vision"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1718","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/29"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1718"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1718\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}