{"id":1798,"date":"2011-01-25T13:34:57","date_gmt":"2011-01-25T21:34:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=1798"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:23:55","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:23:55","slug":"thinking-and-thought","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=1798","title":{"rendered":"Thinking and Thought"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed returning to this inquiry into the nature of thought.\u00c2\u00a0 Here&#8217;s my phenomenological report so far:<\/p>\n<p>This morning, watching thinking as it arose, I noticed that &#8220;thought&#8221; most often shows up for me in two forms:\u00c2\u00a0 either as an interior commentary that is actually more &#8220;felt&#8221; than &#8220;heard&#8221; (as a quick, very subtle, skittering play across the muscles involved in the articulation of speech, like little nerve impulses in the tongue, mouth, lips, and throat, that don&#8217;t cause actual movement but feel like the &#8220;points&#8221; that speech movement would proceed from if I allowed my thoughts to emerge into full speech), and as a subtle play of fleeting images, usually visual, but sometimes also auditory or felt\/emotional.\u00c2\u00a0 The running &#8220;commentary&#8221; form of my thought is not exactly audible, in the way that some imagined sounds occasionally clearly manifest, but the play across the muscles of articulation gives a &#8220;felt-sense&#8221; of the sound of speech, of my &#8220;voice.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As I watched thinking, I noticed I was both watching thinking and thinking about thinking at the same time, or nearly the same time, in an interesting little moebius loop &#8212; maybe a very quick flipping back and forth between\u00c2\u00a0types of noticing and &#8220;engagement.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 Paying attention to the &#8220;commentary&#8221; part of my thought by slowing it down, and following that subtle play of pre-articulation, I was surprised at one point by a sudden feeling of &#8220;clearing&#8221; &#8212; thinking &#8220;vanished&#8221; for a moment and there was a flashing feeling of fresh clarity.\u00c2\u00a0 A little later I noticed thinking more in the form of arising images.\u00c2\u00a0 For instance, seeing a fence, I was reminded of watching that fence a couple years ago while doing a similar exercise, and I saw a brief image of a photo I had associated with that practice overlaid on top of it.\u00c2\u00a0 I also noticed a brief sequence of images at one point that moved quickly, telling a story more compactly, than the &#8220;commentary&#8221; form of thinking could:\u00c2\u00a0 I noticed my &#8220;position&#8221; along the course I usually follow when walking, I associated that immediately with the time, and an image of a cup of yoghurt I planned to eat before the end of my break came to mind, and knew I had to pick up the pace if I really wanted to do that!\u00c2\u00a0 There was little or no verbal thought involved, just a quick series of fleeting images that carried a whole story and impelled a decision (walk faster!).<\/p>\n<p>Walking back, I tried visualizing the orange ball Jack mentioned.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;ve done visualization work before, so it was pretty easy to call an image to mind.\u00c2\u00a0 I noticed that as soon as I did so, it began setting off all sorts of echoes of association: Davidu and his ING ball came to mind, various images of bindus (on the foreheads of Nisargadatta Maharaj, Hariprasad Chaurasia, my wife&#8217;s puja statue), my son&#8217;s basketball, a brilliant sun radiating solar flares.\u00c2\u00a0 These associations flickered at the edges of the orange circle, which itself was &#8220;superimposed&#8221; in my mind&#8217;s eye over the scene of the parking lot where I was walking, and sometimes they momentarily eclipsed it (catching me up in their own content).\u00c2\u00a0 There was a subtle difference between the present, sustained &#8220;thinking out&#8221; of the orange ball and the &#8220;thoughts&#8221; that arose automatically in leaps of association, and David Bohm&#8217;s distinction between (lively) thinking and (past-based, recording-like) thoughts, between feeling and felts, seemed a useful one to me.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;m not sure I fully understand what the difference is, though.\u00c2\u00a0 Thinking seems &#8220;light&#8221; and connected to a creative sense of subjective presence, whereas thought seems like something I am &#8220;subject to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I apologize for the length of this.\u00c2\u00a0 It&#8217;s my first post in awhile, so I guess I went on and on.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;ll try to be a little briefer in future postings.\u00c2\u00a0 :-)<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes,<\/p>\n<p>Bruce<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed returning to this inquiry into the nature of thought.\u00c2\u00a0 Here&#8217;s my phenomenological report so far: This morning, watching thinking as it arose, I noticed that &#8220;thought&#8221; 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