{"id":252,"date":"2007-01-16T04:58:21","date_gmt":"2007-01-16T11:58:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/2007\/01\/16\/moments-and-transitions\/"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:37:19","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:37:19","slug":"moments-and-transitions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=252","title":{"rendered":"Moments and transitions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thank you David and Peter &#8211; I find your posts very helpful in trying to understand this area.<\/p>\n<p>In my usual pedantic way, I started my practice by wondering what constitutes a &#8216;moment&#8217;. My initial thought was that perhaps it was like the length of a heartbeat or the time of a second, and with that definition, I could see the possibility of interspersing &#8216;intermediate moments&#8217; between the moments thus perceived. However, I decided to look further into the pages of LOK, and came across this definition on page 113:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In conventional understanding, a &#8216;moment&#8217; is the span of time necessary to &#8216;hold&#8217; a single discrete event.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This is a lot shorter span than I had been working with. When I returned to practise with this concept, I noticed that the trees outside cast shadows on the verandah. As the breeze rustles these, I can &#8216;hold&#8217; each minute movement, can perceive the shadows flitting back and forth. If, as I &#8216;hold&#8217; the event, each of these perceptions is a moment, I cannot conceive of interspersing intermediate moments between such fleeting movement. It is simply too fast. Similarly, I perceive water trickling in my garden fountain. Each flash of light is so fast, yet I perceive it. Can I really interpose intermediate moments within such a sequence? &#8211; I have great difficulty observing and measuring within such fleeting environments. Each finer and finer act of perception creates a finer delineation of &#8216;moment&#8217;. Perhaps these are, after all, what Tarthang Tulku calls &#8216;intermediate moments&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>I have also started working on the practice &#8220;Point of transition&#8221;. In doing so, I wonder whether the transition between moments is the same as the transition between thoughts\/perceptions. A thought may be developed, embellished, etc., but each individual thought seems to take place in a moment, and to fully occupy that moment. As I move from thought to thought, an &#8216;energy spark&#8217; seems to generate the next, as the energy within the previous thought dissipates. But is this the same as a transition between moments? In a meditative state there can be periods without thought, but such periods often also create states within which time concepts change, or where one has no sense of &#8216;moment to moment&#8217; time movement (one only realises what has happened after the event).`If the definition of a moment is moveable, does this challenge what is meant by &#8216;transition&#8217;? If some form of thought is not present, is there a transition at all &#8211; isn&#8217;t it just one continuous moment? &#8216;Moments&#8217; seem to be an artificial construct to match our thought patterns. I wonder &#8211; is &#8216;moment&#8217; a &#8216;given&#8217;, and therefore the point of transition is universal, or is a &#8216;moment&#8217; in fact my own creation, and the point of transition dependent on my perception? Do I create the moments that I perceive?<\/p>\n<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just confused &#8211; I don&#8217;t have any answers, just questions.<\/p>\n<p>Gaynor<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thank you David and Peter &#8211; I find your posts very helpful in trying to understand this area. In my usual pedantic way, I started my practice by wondering what constitutes a &#8216;moment&#8217;. 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