{"id":4280,"date":"2013-04-27T17:13:11","date_gmt":"2013-04-28T00:13:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=4280"},"modified":"2013-04-27T17:13:11","modified_gmt":"2013-04-28T00:13:11","slug":"responses-to-carolines-tsk-questionaire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=4280","title":{"rendered":"Responses to Caroline&#8217;s TSK Questionaire"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><b>TSK<\/b><b> Questionnaire<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><b>\u00c2\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Briefly outline previous spiritual\/philosophical study &amp; practice.<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>In the 1970\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s, I read all I could by George Gurdjieff and Peter Ouspensky.\u00c2\u00a0 In the early 1980\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s I was introduced to meditation and Eastern spiritual traditions by an Albuquerque minister, whose church I attended.\u00c2\u00a0 In the mid-eighties, I read several books by Tarthang Tulku (<i>Skilful Means<\/i>, <i>TSK&#8211;A New Vision of Reality<\/i>, and <i>Gesture of Balance, <\/i>among others<i>).\u00c2\u00a0 <\/i>Then, around 1986, I attended an individual TSK week with Bob Pasternak in Berkley.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">What drew you to TSK?<\/span><\/b><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>I was strongly drawn to the first book (which I picked up in a local bookstore after a couple of years of working with <i>Skilful Means<\/i>).\u00c2\u00a0 Living alone after my first marriage ended, I started getting up at 4:00 am every morning and practicing the 35 TSK exercises.\u00c2\u00a0 It was magical how my perceptions started transforming.\u00c2\u00a0 A year or two into my private study, I spent a week with Bob Pasternak at the Nyingma Institute.\u00c2\u00a0 Bob helped me to further open to the special quality of the vision.\u00c2\u00a0 He would sit with me for an hour or so after his day at Dharma Press, and we would pracitice \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Marriage of Sound and Breath\u00e2\u20ac\u009d together each evening.\u00c2\u00a0 My sense of space became open and alive.\u00c2\u00a0 During the day he had me do the <i>Blue Sky<\/i> practices on a Berkley hillside for hours at a time.\u00c2\u00a0 One day there were no edges to my visual field.\u00c2\u00a0 I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve never experienced anything like that since, but ever since I have known that there is something alive within experience that is not accurately represented by ordinary consciousness.\u00c2\u00a0<b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">How long have you been a student of TSK?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>About 25 years, off and on.\u00c2\u00a0 After the experiences described above, I took several <b>study by mail<\/b> classes on Buddhism with Jack Petranker and Hal Gurish and I read pretty much all of Tarthang Tulku\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s books plus a few other Dharma titles.\u00c2\u00a0 I also read with considerable interest every new TSK title as they came out.\u00c2\u00a0 I have not resuscitated those experiences of the 1980\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s in my subsequent TSK studies.\u00c2\u00a0 However TSK has become my best way to keep alive the transformative experiences of the Human Development Training Program I attended in 1991.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Are you a student\/teacher\/writer about TSK? Please comment briefly.<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Jack asked me to write an article for the TSK Perspective volume <i>A New Way of Being<\/i>, which appeared in the <b>Applications<\/b> section of that volume.\u00c2\u00a0 He had previously asked me to write something about \u00e2\u20ac\u0153<i>Sacred Dimensions of Time and Space<\/i>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d for <b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Gesar <\/span><\/b>magazine, but I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think that issue of <b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Gesar<\/span><\/b> ever came out.\u00c2\u00a0 I wrote an essay about my experience of the 1991\/92 <b>Human Development Training Program<\/b> for <b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Gesar<\/span><\/b> that appeared as <b>Gateway to the Past (<\/b>and I gave a weekly Sunday talk at Nyingma Institute on the same theme). Back in Albuquerque, I gave a couple of TSK presentations (one with Lee Nichols) at the Albuquerque church where I learned to meditate.\u00c2\u00a0 I also participated in a TSK group (with Lee Nichols and Harold Cohen) in Albuquerque.\u00c2\u00a0 My book, <i>The Flying Caterpillar<\/i>, was in large part inspired by the new way of looking at Time which was seeded in me by several years of Jack\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s TSK on-line classes, notably in our study of the Time sections of KTS &amp; DTS.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">What does TSK offer which isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t found in already existing philosophical, spiritual, religious or \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcself-help\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 approaches?<\/span><\/b><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>I picked up from my mother a distrust of groups, especially ones that promote an exclusive religious dogma.\u00c2\u00a0 I had to overcome that influence in a more general way in the early \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc80\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s, when it became clear that I wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t doing so well with my supposedly private spiritual life.\u00c2\u00a0 TSK sidesteps my tendency to hold back from the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153authority\u00e2\u20ac\u009d of a teacher, it invites inquiry without legislation from beyond, it stimulates and rewards the mind in a way that is its own reward, and it provides tools and methods for pursuing that invitation in daily life just as it presently arises.\u00c2\u00a0 As Tarthang Tulku himself makes clear, TSK offers an alternative way of attending to the possibilities of being more human, more aware, and more alive, without the need to deny or repudiate our own flawed impulses.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Do you feel TSK is particularly relevant to the present day (given its first publication in 1977)? How?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Yes.\u00c2\u00a0 This vision provides a way to appreciate the three most fundamental facets of our time and place and of our unfolding lives.\u00c2\u00a0 Unfortunately, it seems doubtful that the rich and powerful who hold society in thrall will be drawn to TSK.\u00c2\u00a0 When panic and greed are the driving forces on a macro level, it may be that any teaching that awakens people to a path of growth and creativity will only appeal to people who are already walking in the same neighborhood.\u00c2\u00a0 On the other hand, if more people become aware of the wisdom and healing quality of TSK, perhaps its healing vision will start to enter societal awareness as meditation already has.\u00c2\u00a0 The environmental movement seems one area where TSK could find interested parties, because TSK is so fundamentally about our time, our world, and our consciousness.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">How does TSK affect your personal life and professional work?<\/span><\/b><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s hard for me to separate out the influences of Buddhism and TSK, since both provide empowering insights into the wisdom of appreciating our possibilities of life.\u00c2\u00a0 Professionally I work with sufferers of MS and ALS (through my non-profit \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Friends in <b>Time\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/b>), I am board president for a school for kids who have Learning and Autism issues, and I write fiction and non-fiction.\u00c2\u00a0 In all these areas, time is of the essence.\u00c2\u00a0 Progressive neuromuscular diseases only go one way and a two-year waiting list isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t much help for a man who has two years left to live.\u00c2\u00a0 In the field of special education, kids shut down forever if they aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t provided a nurturing environment early on.\u00c2\u00a0 And with writing, trusting the knowledge within is a sure cure for writer\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s block.\u00c2\u00a0 I think that TSK needs to be applied in life in order to come alive and I feel that I owe TSK (and Skilful Means, and Buddhism) the understanding that has awoken me to the gift of my present human life.<b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Would you say that the study\/practice of TSK is \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchealing\u00e2\u20ac\u2122? If so, how? Do you have personal examples from your life (or the lives of those you know) to illustrate your answer?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>I think I needed a non-theoretical practice in my life before I was able to benefit significantly from TSK.\u00c2\u00a0 I received that from <i>Skilful Means<\/i>, which helped me to use work and my patterns of resentment and avoidance at work, to reclaim vital possibilities which had lain dormant during half my waking hours.\u00c2\u00a0 This prepared me to open to TSK in a way that has struck deeper than reading alone could have accomplished.\u00c2\u00a0 The exercises create the potential to be influenced directly, but allowing myself to be healed by a new vision perhaps required that I first acknowledged a willingness to be healed.\u00c2\u00a0 About five years after first encountering TSK, I participated in the six month HDTP at the Nyingma Institute and my life dramatically changed.\u00c2\u00a0 Now I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be sure whether TSK is simply the best way for me to keep alive a vision initiated elsewhere (notably during the HDTP retreat) or whether TSK is itself the source of deep insights which allow me to enjoy greater engagement with life.\u00c2\u00a0 However I <b>am<\/b> certain that the TSK vision provides a deeply fundamental understanding of what it means to be a human being and thereby has the power to awaken us to the gift of a human life.<\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Are there any other comments you would like to make about TSK?<\/span><\/b><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>In the past few years, I have been most engaged by the idea that the future is the source of present aliveness.\u00c2\u00a0 This provides access to a realm of hope that lives in a kingdom of infinite possibilities.\u00c2\u00a0 What a beautiful alternative to the tendency to project anxieties and cravings, familiar from the past, onto a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153future\u00e2\u20ac\u009d that is thereby dragged down by fear and confusion.\u00c2\u00a0 Opening to the future as our friend and sponsor in Time is deeply empowering.<\/p>\n<p>NAME: Michael Gray<\/p>\n<p>Yes you are welcome to quote me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TSK Questionnaire \u00c2\u00a0 Briefly outline previous spiritual\/philosophical study &amp; practice. 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