{"id":467,"date":"2007-10-29T10:09:24","date_gmt":"2007-10-29T17:09:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/2007\/10\/29\/rounding-out-week-one\/"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:37:12","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:37:12","slug":"rounding-out-week-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=467","title":{"rendered":"rounding out week one"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to move on to week two, but first a few comments on the last couple of days of posts on week one.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0Linda responded to my question about the physical precursor to thought. Linda, if I understood correctly, you say that darkness of mind precedes (?) thought, and this is what you mean by physical. I&#8217;ll leave it at that, but feel free to comment if I&#8217;ve misunderstood.<\/p>\n<p>David picks up on another aspect of Linda&#8217;s comment, one that I had not reflected on until David pointed it out: Does a dog appear as dog because the dog is constructing &#8216;itself&#8217; as dog or because &#8216;I&#8217; am constructing it as dog. As David says, this is a great question. I am going to respond on a fairly theoretical level: it seems to me the dog and I share some constructs, having to do with being embodied beings on this earth, etc. But it would be much better to look at this question experientially. This area of &#8220;intersubjectivity&#8221; is not much discussed in TSK that I can recall, but it would be fruitful indeed to explore. To take another sentient being as an &#8216;object&#8217; for purposes of investigating the relation between subject and object could open whole new vistas. David&#8217;s thoughts, and the TSK quote he cites in his comment, are good pointers.<\/p>\n<p>David, good job of being concrete ! :>) (smiling face) I like the way you dissolved the distinction among the senses (not to the point of synesthesia, but to the point of not making such sharp distinctions: a hearing-seeing-tasting experience. My hunch is that insisting on subject vs. object is not so easy when you are open to more than one sense-field at once.<\/p>\n<p>Arthur, your very sense of being frozen\/rigid in your ordinary experience seems to me to go to a key point in TSK, and your conclusion: &#8220;I am an unconscious being&#8221; is one way of experience this very directly. The question for us is how much the distinction between subject and object depends on (and creates) this stiffness. I think we should be careful not to jump too quickly to a conclusion (to decide we already <em>know<\/em> what the right answer to this question is), but to stay with our experience.<\/p>\n<p>The CD does not have a glossary, but it does have a search function which can access all the TSK books. To use it, click on the image of the binoculars in Adobe Acrobat.<\/p>\n<p>Jack<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to move on to week two, but first a few comments on the last couple of days of posts on week one. \u00c2\u00a0Linda responded to my question about the physical precursor to thought. Linda, if I understood correctly, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=467\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-467","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01_general","category-tsk-online-program"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/467","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=467"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/467\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=467"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=467"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=467"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}