{"id":504,"date":"2007-12-03T10:28:17","date_gmt":"2007-12-03T17:28:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/2007\/12\/03\/week-seven-bridgingdismissing-the-distance\/"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:37:09","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:37:09","slug":"week-seven-bridgingdismissing-the-distance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=504","title":{"rendered":"Week Seven: Bridging\/Dismissing the Distance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are lots of philosophical points that could be made about the distance between subject and object, but that is probably not so helpful. The &#8216;common sense&#8217; view described here is a kind of natural dualism: I am &#8216;in here&#8217; and the object is &#8216;out there&#8217;. Even if I am experiencing an inner sensation like pain, this holds: &#8216;I here&#8217; experience the pain &#8216;there&#8217;. The pain is very close to me, but I am not the pain.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0As the text says, it seems impossible ever to discover the &#8216;here&#8217; that the I occupies, at least as long as we use the usal model, which depends on distance between the subject that knows and the object that is known.<\/p>\n<p>The way out of this dilemma depends on the &#8216;feel&#8217; of the field within which knowing takes place and the temporal momentum of the act of knowing (see bottom of p. 308). By working on this level, we challenge the &#8216;bystanding&#8217; of the subject. We come close to the &#8216;hidden dimension&#8217; referred to on p. 310. The concept of &#8217;emerging together (p. 311) is another way of making this same point.<\/p>\n<p>We have the chance to explore this through TSK Ex. 17 (which was already assigned in weeks 3 and 4) and\u00c2\u00a0TSK\u00c2\u00a0Ex. 30 (the one I mistakenly referred to a couple of weeks back.) Subject-object &#8216;reversal&#8217; and the subject as the object&#8217;s glow are both ways to get at the quality of &#8217;emerging together&#8217;, because if both subject and object emerge together, it seems arbitrary to focus completely on the subject pole of experience.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge to our conventional model presented here makes good sense (it seems to me). But it will not do us any good if we don&#8217;t embody it. So I would encourage you to take these practices out into your daily life. Instead of relating to everything as a self or subject, try identifying more with the <em>field<\/em> of experience. Don&#8217;t forget about the part of the field that is behind you.<\/p>\n<p>Have fun!<\/p>\n<p>Jack<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are lots of philosophical points that could be made about the distance between subject and object, but that is probably not so helpful. The &#8216;common sense&#8217; view described here is a kind of natural dualism: I am &#8216;in here&#8217; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=504\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-504","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01_general","category-tsk-online-program"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/504","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=504"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/504\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=504"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=504"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=504"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}