{"id":522,"date":"2007-12-20T12:42:04","date_gmt":"2007-12-20T19:42:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/2007\/12\/20\/looking-back-toward-week-8\/"},"modified":"2012-12-08T11:37:08","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T19:37:08","slug":"looking-back-toward-week-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=522","title":{"rendered":"Looking back toward Week 8"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I never really commented on your postings for Week 8. Here are a few observations, before the chance disappears entirely.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c2\u00a0David in one of his posts writes of &#8220;the object understanding itself.&#8221; quote KTS. It is perhaps worth noting that KTS speaks of &#8220;the <em>image<\/em> of the object&#8221; understanding itself. That image (rather than the object itself) is the meeting place for &#8220;the interpretive structure&#8221; that knows the object and the object as it is known.<\/p>\n<p>Is this an important distinction? To me it suggests a point I have found very illuminating, but may not be able to express very clearly: The alternative to subject-knowing-object is not necessarily object-knowing-subject. Rather, it is (to quote LOK), &#8220;knowing knowing in knowing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That same post has a link to a very interesting image of a spinning silhouette that can reverse direction spontaneously. This is like various stationery optical effects, such as the very simple Necker cube (the doodle of a cube that everyone learns to draw as a child, which can be seen from two different perspectives). But the dynamic motion here makes it more powerful. My question: is there a way to &#8216;relax&#8217; our usual self-mode of seeing that makes it possible to make the shift more easily? I could not find it, in just a few minutes of exploring. Did anyone else try?<\/p>\n<p>Peter&#8217;s reflections on intimacy speak for themselves. The kind of intimacy suggested in the practices and readings is of course not threatening to the &#8216;I&#8217;, because for the intimacy to happen, the I has to let go anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Now I see the connection between these two posts. The silhouette can spin in either direction. Can we &#8216;spin&#8217; in the direction of &#8216;subject as knower&#8217; and then spin in the &#8216;opposite&#8217; direction of knowing knowing in knowing?<\/p>\n<p>Jack<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I never really commented on your postings for Week 8. Here are a few observations, before the chance disappears entirely. \u00c2\u00a0David in one of his posts writes of &#8220;the object understanding itself.&#8221; quote KTS. It is perhaps worth noting that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/?p=522\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-522","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01_general","category-tsk-online-program"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/522","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=522"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/522\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=522"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=522"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cciforum.dreamhosters.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=522"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}