There has been a lot of activity since I last posted, and I won’t try to comment on it all. You guys are doing fine on your own! But I will respond where I feel I have something to say.
David writes that he can’t find (or ‘catch’ moments by taking up a position in one moment. This seems very true to what TSK has to say. And yet the exercise on the surface asks for that. That may be why it seems so confusing. He suggests that space-between-thoughts can also be seen as space between moments. This raises the question I think I referred to earlier: can there be a moment between two moments without that ‘between’ moment also have content (in which case it would not exactly be space.) But they could be reach and open, as David suggests.
It is possible to multiply concepts here endlessly, which is where Peter in his Post finds himself: filled with confusion. But there is line in what he writes that is almost poetic:
“What shall I call the transition
from breathing out to breathing in?
Death?”
Inquiry through practice may seem to lead more readily to clarity. David does that beautifully, and so does Gaynor; I have a very vivid sense of her verandah and fountain and trees, though it is not visual. Perhaps that communication is in itself a kind of moment, transmitted outside of time. (compare: “a moment of transition that cannot ordinarily be directly observed.”)
In a later Post, Peter has an experience in a Kum Nye Exercise of a glowing glimmering, sparkling, like the flash of a precious gem, and notices how language “tones down” that experience; makes it seem like the X of Ex. (eX) 22. Yet words can also be openings. What is the right stand to take toward words, he asks, the one that leads to openness? DTS has some suggestions here, Peter: words as symbols; listening to the sound of what is said instead of the meaning of what is said.
I think enough for now. More tomorrow.
Jack
I like the idea of transitions in the space we all share.
As to your second post, this intrigued me, so I dug a little further. Take a look at http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/
Speaking of words, I got the following paragraph from the internet, but it points to a mechanism we don’t usually notice, “how we make order based on past knowledge,” and “how it is done in moments between moments.” See if you can understand what is being said:
“…aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.”
David
I was thinking about the mindfulness of our “way of being together” as we read and deeply consider each other’s posts about our personal TSK explorations, and how as Jack says, “words can also be openings”. And in looking into those openings how that can elevate us and focus our mindful attention on our ‘we-space,’ a space we can explore, where, in a sense, I may speak my words with your mind, where I may carry my being across a gap.
I was reminded of some words by R. Langan that resonate, he writes, “I become…what you make of me. And you become mine… The gap makes the other. Other intimations remake one’s self. One discovers oneself in a between. Awareness of this gap, this dissolving edge of being, is a perpetual invitation…”
It seems therein transitions are possible.
David